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Show Notes

Thomas Yeomans, Ph.D. is the founder and director of the Concord Institute. His background includes education at Harvard, Oxford, and the University of California and professional work in the fields of literature, education, and psychology. Tom has been involved with psychosynthesis and spiritual psychology for over forty years. He studied with Roberto Assagioli, M.D. in the early 1970's, and has trained professionals in psychosynthesis and spiritual psychology since then, both in individual and group work, throughout North America and in Europe and Russia.

Tom has published writing on psychosynthesis and spiritual psychology as well as three volumes of poetry and a childrens' book. He is founder/director of The Concord Institute and co-founder of the International School in St. Petersburg, Russia. He is also a painter and musician. Tom maintains a private practice in psycho-spiritual consulting and mentoring in Shelburne Falls, MA. His latest book is Holy Fire: The Process of Soul Awakening.

Tom Discusses

-  What is contemplative?
-  What is psychosynthesis (PS) as a framework for human development? Freud, Jung and Assagioli – the full spectrum of human consciousness and experience
-  House as metaphor of human consciousness and Assagioli’s addition of a “terrace”
-  The inherent, natural evolutionary tendency of human development toward integration, synthesis and spiritual maturity
-  Abraham Maslow and self-actualization
-  Tom searching in his 20s, PhD program and discovery of Assagioli’s “egg diagram” as personal epiphany
-  The centrality of the present moment as a touchstone in PS underlying aliveness and vitality
-  Doctrine and dogma – “you can’t dogmatize the present moment”
-  Tom’s latest book, Holy Fire: The Process of Soul Awakening - the purpose of using  “holy” and “soul” as terms
-  The book is primarily written for “serious seekers” not necessarily for professionals
- In PS the emergence of needs arising from existential reality is key and techniques and methods are selected appropriate to serving those needs specific to each individual
-  The story of Craig the dumpmeister
-  Four types of awakening and their "wildness"
-  Importance of cultivating an appreciation of the unknown
-  Pythagoras, his lyre and awakening to the cosmos
-  Paradox of opening to the Big Picture and self as unique
-  No split between macro and micro as with Aristotle – the non-dual
-  The lived experience of poetry and painting as spiritual practices
-  Tom closes by reading his poem “Now”

References Mentioned

The Concord Institute

Holy Fire: The Process of Soul Awakening

Assagioli's "egg diagram" of the human psyche

This threesome rediscovered a contemplative practice based on the 14th century text, "The Cloud of Unknowing" and tailored it for modern times. They eventually named it centering prayer, a type of non-conceptual, non-discursive, non-thinking based meditation practice. The practice has became widely adopted throughout the world. 

Fr. William's passing is a significant closure and perhaps celebration of a chapter in the revival of contemplative spirituality and practice in the Christian world - as all three monks have now passed-on yet left behind a host of treasures. May all three rest in peace.

Show Notes

Regina Roman has been leading pilgrimages and designing travel/study programs since she was 18. She is a spiritual director at the St. Paul’s Episcopal Church, author of published articles on pilgrimage and spirituality, and is an icon writer. She also studies with various shamans and native American medicine women on the ancient healing traditions. Her gift is in creating the space and the study program for a meaningful experience within the journey. Her wish for us is to sense the experience, feel the wonder and awe, and ponder upon all the threads that bind us through time, place and people. (from the Sapira website – see below)

Update: In our discussion of the Aramaic meaning of Sapira, I should have said if you pray in secret "your being will blossom and flourish" (Matthew 6:6). As always, comments and questions are welcomed - click on title above. - Ron Barnett

 Regina Discusses

 - What makes something contemplative?
- Socrates on truth as a wandering that is divine
- Two aspects of the contemplative stance: receiving, expression
- What is pilgrimage? Why go one one? What makes one meaningful?
- Two elements: outer desire to see or experience something; inner wish for transformation
- The story of Gary’s experience of silence, stillness, and absence of boundaries
- Importance of preparation and clarity of purpose
- Holy curiosity and inquiry – the mind and heart as sources
- An Executive Coach encounters the King’s inner chamber at the Pyramids
- Sapira – Journey with a Purpose pilgrimages to Egypt
- The Aramaic Sapira means first glimmer of light/continued illumination
- Amanda Gorman Presidential inaugural poet “There is always light….if only we’re brave enough to be it”
- Group silence on pilgrimages – "What tugs at your heart?"
- Religious affiliations of Sapira pilgrims
- Pilgrimage - any journey with the purpose of finding something that matters deeply
- Stories of intimacy: Regina’s birth and the nuns, Ron and the psychiatrist
- The I Ching: “there are forces in the world bringing people together who need to be together”
- Grace and gratitude
- Sting and relief; Kabir – “the breath inside the breath”

References Mentioned

Sapira - Journey with Purpose website
The Art of Pilgrimage: The Seeker’s Guide to Making Travel Sacred, Phil Cousineau
Matsuo Basho, Japanese poet
The I Ching or Book of Changes  
Kabir Das, mystical poet

David Parks, Zen teacher and former guest on the All Things Contemplative podcast (Episode #6) approaches koans with receptivity vs. mental struggle - awakening to the Thusness of living. For a fuller description see here. Highly recommended.

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In 1982 Pat Johnson and family moved to the Lama Foundation in New Mexico and there two months later she met Fr. Thomas Keating. She served as the Lama liaison for two 16-day centering prayer (CP) retreats that he led at Lama in 1983 and again in 1984. These were the first intensive contemplative practice retreats using CP in the Christian tradition and inspired by Zen shessins he'd experienced.

In 1984 she served an experimental 9-week retreat Fr. Keating led at St. Benedict’s Monastery in Snowmass, CO where he was a monk. This began the Snowmass CP retreats at the monastery. From 1984 until 2018, Pat served and oversaw these retreats. She has also served as a Board member of Contemplative Outreach Ltd. and was its overall interim administrator for several years. 

"Whoa, take ‘er easy there, Pilgrim” - John Wayne

Maybe its COVID but I’ve been thinking a lot about traveling, and about pilgrimages in particular. 

When I think of pilgrims I think of Plymouth Rock and Thanksgiving. When I think of pilgrimages I think of people who travel to religious sites such as Mecca, Jerusalem, Iona in Scotland or Shikoku in Japan. 

However, isn’t a human life itself also a pilgrimage of sorts? There’s a beginning and an end with passages throughout. There’s repeated transitions from what is known to what is unknown, a classic attribute of a pilgrimage. Consider for example going from high school to college, getting married, having children or retirement. More broadly, there is the lifelong discovery of values, meanings and purposes often revising and transforming themselves over time.

And what about viewing pilgrimages as metaphors, as Phil Cousineau describes in The Art of Pilgrimage? Viewed thus, a pilgrimage with the proper attitude and intention is any journey that has a purpose of "finding something that matters deeply". It could be traveling to a family homestead where one grew up, a visit to a special place in nature, or going to a museum to experience special artifacts that "matter deeply". 

A couple of years ago I attended the 90th birthday party for an aunt in another state where I had grown up - Kentucky. At some point it became clear to me that I wanted to visit a psychiatrist I’d seen in Kentucky almost 50 years previously when I was in college. He was not only a psychiatrist but also had a strong spiritual influence on me, introducing me to meditation and supporting me spiritually in many ways. He was now long retired and living alone on a small farm about an hour’s drive from where my aunt lived. I had not seen him in many years and he was now near 90 himself. 

John Parks, M.D.

Even with GPS it was a challenge to locate the farm and eventually I had to stop and ask for directions. We spent the afternoon sitting on his porch, drinking tea and taking-in the Eastern Kentucky foot hills in the distance. We talked about all matter of topics psychological, philosophical, and spiritual. As hunger stirred we picked fresh lettuce from his garden and made a salad. 

Beads given at meditation initiation 1970

John had been a robust athlete in college, ran track and had lived a healthy lifestyle; but it was clear that aging had taken its measure. In retrospect, I realized that in my traveling to see him I had paid my respects to him, honored him, and expressed my gratitude for all that he had done for me when I was a young man. I never saw or spoke to him again. A few months later he died.

The All Things Contemplative podcast will feature an episode on pilgrimage with Regina Goetz Roman in the early New Year - stay tuned.

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David Parks is the Director of Bluegrass Zen, one location of the Pacific Zen Institute in Waco, KY with groups in both Lexington and Berea, KY. He was a minister for many years in the United Church of Christ before devoting himself full time to teaching Zen. David has a deep trust in life’s generosity and views koans as vehicles for transformation, capable of opening the heart to the intimate experience of life lived freely and fully. David has a special interest in the parables, sayings, and doings of Jesus as Christian koans. 

David Discusses: his understanding of “contemplative” drawing on Thomas Merton’s epiphany at 4th and Walnut in Louisville KY, the Buddha and Jesus’s view of the oneness of existence, the Zen practices of meditation and koans, the importance of non-grasping for opening the Heart to the vastness of life, the difference between spirituality and morality, the relevance of Zen for healing a divided world, the Gospel of Thomas, Christian based koans, and the nature of beliefs. 

References From the Show

Bluegrass Zen

Jesus Points to the Moon Blog 

Pacific Zen Institute

Thomas Merton’s Epiphany at 4th & Walnut 

The Gospel of Thomas

Meditations on the Tarot

Shunryu Suzuki (Zen Mind, Beginners Mind) 

Centering Prayer

Frederic Spiegelberg, The Religion of No-Religion  

This morning I had a delightful time interviewing David Parks, a Zen teacher. David and I both grew up in Kentucky where he has returned to live on a small farm after spending many years in California. His father, John Parks a psychiatrist and now deceased introduced me as a college student to meditation 50 years ago. 

While I knew of David as his son we never really had a chance to connect meaningfully until recently as we prepared to record an episode of All Things Contemplative. He spoke of growing up seeing his parents meditating on a regular basis and he would flip through books laying around the house by Akhilananda, their meditation teacher, Manley Palmer Hall and others. I said likewise with the books my mother left discreetly around by Gurdjeiff, Ouspensky and Yogananda hoping I’d show interest in them. It was she who introduced me to David’s father. 

This is all to say that it is as if I was only aware of threads and in a flash the whole cloth, invisibly woven together appeared as some type of interconnecting "it", sensed though incapable of precise definition. The episode with David will air in about two weeks.  

Stephen Hatch, M.A. is a contemplative teacher, thinker, photographer and writer.  For the past thirty years, he has have lived as a "Worldly Monk," combining family life with meditation, silence, solitary time spent hiking and camping in the wilds, a simple lifestyle, and mindfulness. He has a B.A. from Colorado State University in Philosophy and Religion, and an M.A. from Iliff School of Theology. In the 1980s, he trained with Thomas Keating and then worked for several years with Contemplative Outreach, the organization Keating established to teach centering prayer. Formerly he was on the faculty of Naropa University, Boulder, CO where he taught contemplative Christianity.

"For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face...” - 1st Corinthians 13

We’ve enlightening episodes coming: Wilderness Mysticism, Retreat to 8,000 Feet, Living in the Non-Dual Here and Now, Bluegrass Zen, and Miksang Photography.

Today marks the second year of Fr. Thomas Keating’s passing. As a contemplative he greatly influenced many and was greatly influenced by Zen and he loved haiku. Here’s one of his favorites.

Contemplative Outreach, an organization I've been extensively involved in over the past few decades asked that I submit a piece for their e-news on what I've been up to lately. I submitted this.

“My mind was racing with a thousand thoughts. I was not sure how I would deal with the long, dark hours to come but I soon noticed that each hand pull stirred up the bioluminescence in the water and broke up the darkness below. After I mentally adjusted to the dark space below me, I turned my focus to the night sky and the universe on display in the stars. I had rarely seen a night sky so bright and so full of stars…I got lost in the stars for several hours and the time passed as if I was time traveling…I realized that the whole ocean below me had lit up with its own show of bioluminescence…below me as deep as I could see, there were star-like dots of light, mimicking the night sky. I felt like I was floating in space, suspended between the sky and the sea. It was humbling and at the same time, felt primal on a level that is hard to articulate…it was the ultimate experience…time melted away in the largeness of it all.” (Jim Clifford, Catalina Channel night swim)

Jim Clifford, attorney, farmer, and senior citizen shares how he trains his body and mind;  the psychology of open water swimming including "the zone"; how he manages his mind during the many continuous hours involved; his experience of two contemplative values silence and solitude when swimming alone for hours at a time; and transcendence in nature.

References from the Show

https://openwaterswimming.com/2015/11/jim-clifford-thrice-as-nice/

Jane Goodall https://awaken.com/2020/05/mystical-experience-of-jane-goodall-ph-d/ 

Simplicity is often cited as a contemplative value. As the Shakers sang, "tis a gift to be simple, tis a gift to be free”.

In making things simpler, our days, weeks, or lives overall we can for some period of time withdraw, psychologically, socially, and/or physically in order to experience self and other more openly without the usual demands of daily life. 

In so doing a simpler mode of being brackets the usual demands on our time and energy while allowing us to experience the unseen, unheard, and even unimagined. In other words, it aids in awakening to the potential richness of lived experience. 

Retreats are one such traditional and common way to this end as are time spent in nature and meditation. Less well known is focusing on a single sense like seeing or hearing. For example, with the sense of seeing as described at The Miksang Institute for Contemplative Photography ("True Perception True Expression") or with sounds from the BBC's Slow Radio ("An antidote to today’s frenzied world. Step back, let go, immerse yourself: it’s time to go slow.") 

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“The lyrics are the real thing, tangible, they’re not metaphors. The songs seem to know themselves and they know that I can sing them, vocally and rhythmically. They kind of write themselves and count on me to sing them.” - Bob Dylan (6/20/2020 New York Times interview)

Transcript: In Episode #1, I provided an introduction to the podcast and mentioned that guests would be discussing what they mean when they say "contemplative". I did not however say what I mean. While there may be diversity in understanding, a commonality is how our usual, familiar mind is viewed and treated in contemplative practices. 

Implicit is the idea that while this mind, the one we usually think of, is necessary for survival and well-being, and is developed and valued for its ability to accumulate information and to analyze it, to think critically, to use complex language, and to anticipate and plan for the future, etc., it is not the sole means for knowing that is at our disposal as humans. When, for lack of a better expression "thinking mind" dominates, other ways of knowing go unrecognized and unappreciated. 

For instance, if I wish to see the beauty, uniqueness and elegance of my visual world as it is in all its plentitude versus what I think it is, I will need to let go of thinking mind (my thoughts, concepts, opinions, judgements) and be open and receptive to unfiltered and unmediated seeing. Or speaking religiously, if I wish to know god or have a closer relationship with god, I will need to let go of what I think god is and open to receiving information that is not solely based on thinking mind including what others might have said and alleged to be true. In so doing, we're residing in "contemplative mind" so to speak.

Dr. Goodall, the world's authority on chimpanzees and environmental advocate shares her "large" experience in a forest in west Africa Gambia.